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    Hi am searching for parents of Arnold Foster Goonan born 1899 not sure if England or Ireland, he married Iris May Else born June 1900 and she came from Maidstone, Kent.

    They migrated to Australia but not sure if before or after marriage.



    Also searching for parents of Albert E Else born 1874 Maidstone, kent who was a lolly shop keeper in the 1901 census and married an Eliza E born 1874 London City.

    Any help appreciated.

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    Hi gayegel



    Albert E. Else

    Age:7

    Estimated Birth Year:abt 1874

    Relation:Son

    Father's Name:Edward

    Mother's Name:Emily

    Gender:Male

    Where born:Maidstone, Kent, England

    Civil Parish:Maidstone

    County/Island:Kent

    Country:England

    Street address:10 Whitmore St



    Employment status:



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    Occupation:ScholarRegistration district:Maidstone Sub-registration district:West Maidstone ED, institution, or vessel:11 Neighbors:View others on page Household Members:NameAge



    Albert E. Else/7/ Maidstone, Kent, England

    Arthur G. Else/2 Months/Maidstone, Kent, England

    Edward Else/22/Grocer/Pluckley, Kent, England

    Emily Else/27/ Heathfield, Sussex, England

    Ernest C. Else/4/Maidstone, Kent, England



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    Hi gayegel,



    Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%)



    Bailey Henrietta Maidstone 2a721

    Barnes Emily Maidstone 2a721

    ELSE Edward Maidstone 2a721

    FOWLER Thomas Maidstone 2a721

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    Hi gayegel,



    Sorry, no luck with Arnold Foster Goonan

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    hi starlight, many thanks for your quick reply. Wish all requests were that easy, LOL. When I tried to click on the links they wouldn't open. Any suggestions?

    Does what I did see mean that Edward Else was married to Emily barnes in march 1873?

    Am still learning what this is all about. Cheers Gaye.

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    Hi Gaye,



    Yes, that looks like their marriage. It will fit also with the eldest child being born the following year. The only way of definately confirming that it is the right one is by purchasing the marriage certificate. If this was my one I would be happy with this info.



    The link will only open for people that have access to Ancestry. I do it this way as a lot of people do have access but haven't succeeded in finding the one they were looking for. It also helps anyone else that is helping with the same lookup. All the information is on though but if you need the image send me a pm.

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    Hi Starlight,

    Thanks again for the info. Have had a look at ancestry and saved images to shoebox for the future. Only trouble is I don't know what the shoebox is or where to find it again. As I said this is all new to me.

    On Arnold Foster Goonan, I had a look and it appears he may have been born in Victoria, Aust, 1899 so would appreciate help on where to look properly.

    Cheers Gaye

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    Hi Gaye,



    I suppose this is the reference you are talking about:

    (from Vic BDM - Federation Index 1889-1901)

    Surname: GOONAN

    Given Names: Arnold Foster

    Event: B(irth)

    Father: Edmond GOONAN

    Mother: Deborah Jane ROWLEY

    Birth Place: Fosterville

    Year: 1899

    Reg No:10659



    And you would have his sibling from that Index also:

    Edmund (1901, Fosterville #19299) & William Edmund (1897, Bendigo #16708 - 1898, Ararat).

    If you would like any other info from the Vic or NSW BDMs just ask. There are likely to be other siblings in the Edwardian Index (1902-1913), which I will check for you in a moment.



    Also from Fed Index:

    GROOM:-

    Surname: GOONAN

    Given Names: Edmond

    Birth Place: Castlemaine

    BRIDE:-

    Surname: ROWLEY (or RONBERG?)

    Given Names: Deborah Jane

    Birth Place: Wickliffe

    Year: 1897

    Reg No:1115R

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    Gaye, me again...



    Couldn't find any additional children between 1902-13 so the family either stopped having kids, content with two, or moved away.



    I looked on the earlier Pioneer Index (1836-1888) and found their mother. No luck on the father as yet...



    Surname: ROWLEY

    Given Names: Deborah Jane

    Event: B(irth)

    Father: Edward ROWLEY

    Mother: Mary Ann Elizabeth TILLY

    Birth Place: Wickliffe

    Year: 1866

    Reg No: 11990



    Her siblings are:

    Martha Valentine (1860, Ararat #3835)

    Ellen Eliza (1864, Wickliffe #12323)

    Eliza (1868, Wickliffe #13010)

    Emma Arnold Edwarda (1871, LAKE #9913) <-- Unsure which lake this refers to. Possibly Lake Bolac, which is only a few km from Wickliffe.

    George Edward Tilly (1872, LAKE #24139)

    Mary Ann Harriet (1875, LAKE #23742)



    Parents: Edward ROWLEY m. 1855 #1900 (no places given) to Maryann Elizabeth TILLY

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    Default Re: Goonan and Else

    Hi Bazza,

    Thanks for that info. Arnold did have another younger brother whose name was Rowley so that appears to be the correct family. Guess Arnold Foster was named after his birthplace and Rowley after his mother. If Rowley didn't show up in Vic maybe they moved to W.A. and he was born here.

    Arnold died 1975 and Rowley 1990 in Perth W.A.



    Father Edmond and mother Deborah, do you know where Castlemaine and Wickliffe are?

    Aust, England or wherever?



    Cheers Gaye.

 

 

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