Thread: How likely do you think these are the same people ?

I am looking for an Albert Edward Stockwell he was born abt 1898 and i have some info from an old aunt



saying that his mother was a Phoebe (nee smith) and his dad was a Charles Stockwell .



This is info from another searcher and we think we might be related by marriage and blood



just trying to tie it all in .



Now i have wrote this down i can't see the link as i thought i could.....



Charles Stockwell was suppose to have married a Phoebe Smith and had a son Albert Edward in 1898 .



I read as that the phoebe in the 1901 census was the mother of albert e smith in 1901 but the charles i thought was his dad would have only been 11 ish when he fathered him ............



If anyone can either shed any light on this please do i would be very grateful Tina















1. 1861 Census, RG9-715-131-46 Andover, Hampshire.

"Name Age Birthplace Relationship Occupation

Charles Stockwell 35 Andover, Hampshire, England Visitor Ag Lab

Elizabeth Stockwell 28 Andover, Hampshire, England Lodger

Charley Stockwell 6 Andover, Hampshire, England Lodger Scholar

George Stockwell 1 Andover, Hampshire, England Lodger

William Seward 13 Andover, Hampshire, England Lodger Ag Lab

New Street."



CENSUS:



2. 1871 Census, RG10-1243-57-52 Andover, Hampshire.

"Name Age Birthplace Relationship Occupation

Charles Stockwell 46 Andover, Hampshire, England Head Ag Laborer

Elizabeth Stockwell 38 Andover, Hampshire, England Wife

Charles Stockwell 16 Andover, Hampshire, England Son Ag Laborer

George Stockwell 11 Andover, Hampshire, England Son Ag Laborer

Albert Stockwell 7 Andover, Hampshire, England Son Scholar

Elizabeth Stockwell 4 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter Scholar

Sarah Stockwell 1 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter Scholar

New Street."



CENSUS:



3. 1881 Census, RG11-1263-53-49 Andover, Hampshire.

"Name Age Birthplace Relationship Occupation

Charles Stockwell 26 Andover, Hampshire, England Head General Lab

Rhoda Stockwell 27 Inkpen, Berkshire, England Wife

Rose Stockwell 4 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter

Katie Stockwell 1 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter

Lilly Stockwell 7 Weeks Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter

121 New Street."



CENSUS:



4. 1891 Census, RG12-964-98-36 Andover, Hampshire.

"Name Age Birthplace Relationship Occupation

Charles Stockwell 38 Andover, Hampshire, England Head General Labourer

Boda Stockwell 34 Andover, Hampshire, England Wife

Rose Stockwell 14 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter

Katie Stockwell 12 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter Scholar

Lilly Stockwell 10 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter Scholar

V Stockwell 8 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter Scholar

Edith Stockwell 7 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter Scholar

Daisy Stockwell 5 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter Scholar

Charles Stockwell 4 Andover, Hampshire, England Son Scholar

George Stockwell 2 Andover, Hampshire, England Son Scholar

44 Chantry Street."



he does not seem to be around in the 1901 census! however I think this is Rhoda -

CENSUS:



3. 1901 Census, RG13-1120-53-24 Newbury, Berkshire.

"Name Age Birthplace Relationship Occupation

Rhoda Smith 46 Andover, Hampshire, England Head

Phebo Smith 18 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter Fruit Hawker

Daisy Smith 15 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter Fruit Hawker

Charles Smith 14 Andover, Hampshire, England Son Carter Boy on Farm

George Smith 12 Andover, Hampshire, England Son

Louisa Smith 9 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter

Freedom Smith 8 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter

Ethel Mary Smith 6 Andover, Hampshire, England Daughter

Albert E Smith 2 Andover, Hampshire, England Son

1 Kennet Court.



My reason for thinking this is that there is no Smith birth registration for the post 1891 births but there seems to be a Stockwell one for most of the names!

Hi Stilllooking,



It looks very possible to me. If you compare the 1901 and the 1891 census. Start from the bottom of 1901 at george and work upwards. The ones below were not born in 1891. The ones towards the top have probably left home. I would say Boda was meant to be Rhoda. If the parents had seperated it would not be unusual for the wife to revert to her maiden name.



You then have



George 2 / George 12

Charles 4 / Charles 14

Daisy 5 / Daisy 15

Boda 34 / Rhoda 46

Thanks Starlight....



I have confused myself , which is not too hard !!



The mention of blood and marriage ties is between myself and the other



researcher , lol.





I just cannot work out if the charles aged 14 is married to the Phoebe who is 18 .



If this is the right Charles then this is the right Albert E Smith .



Roll on Friday or Monday when his birth cert should arrive.





Off to search for the marriage cert of Phoebe Smith and Charles Stockwell ,



Smiths i'm gonna need some luck , lol.



Tina

Hi Tina,



Don't worry, I have just re-read it and am now confused myself . If it is the right one I think I know what the birth certificate will say. Now I can't wait either.



Just looked again and see what I did the first time now. Rhoda was born in Berkshire (1881 census) and in 1901 was back living in Berkshire.