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Thread: Greasley Look upI have a Charles Greasley born 1863 Hanley Stoke on Trent Married Jane Bailey Born abt 1872. Could any one ....... |
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28-11-2008, 09:39 PM
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Re: Greasley Look up
1901 Census. All born Hanley.
Name: Charles Greasley Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Hanley Ecclesiastical parish: Shelton St Mark County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Charles Greasley 39 Elizabeth M Greasley 2 Elsie Greasley 4 Jane Greasley 29 Polly Greasley 5 |
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28-11-2008, 09:52 PM
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Hi Lili,
The 1901 Census has this family, which seems to fit.... RG13; Piece: 2607; Folio: 30; Living 38 Sun St, Shelton St Mark, Hanley, Staff. Charles Greasley Potters Dipper B. Hanley, Staff. 39 Elizabeth M Greasley 2 Elsie Greasley 4 Jane Greasley 29 Polly Greasley 5 What else are you looking for? |
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29-11-2008, 06:15 PM
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29-11-2008, 09:33 PM
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I think you are going to have a problem with this lot, to be honest.  1901 England Census Name: Charles Greasley Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Hanley Ecclesiastical parish: Shelton St Mark County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 38 Sun Street, Hanley, Stoke upon Trent Occupation: Potter's Dipper Registration district: Stoke upon Trent Sub registration district: Shelton ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 102 Household Members: Name Age Charles Greasley 39 Elizabeth M Greasley 2 Elsie Greasley 4 Jane Greasley 29 Polly Greasley 5 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2607; Folio: 30; Page: 18. Births Mar 1895 Greasley Ada Elizabeth Stoke T 6b 216 (Polly) Births Sep 1897 Greasley Elsie Stoke T. 6b 234 Births Jun 1899 Greasley Elizabeth May Stoke T. 6b 236 Where did you get the birth of Charles Greasley  :c onfused:No Stoke-on-Trent or 1863!! I have scoured all Greasleys and various spellings on the Ancestry Births registers from 1860-64 inclusive, and found that the only Charles born anywhere near the date mentioned are the following two. Births Jun 1861 GREASLEY Henry Charles Billesdon 7a 35 This Registration District is between Leicester and Uppingham Births Mar 1862 GREASELEY Henry Charles Whitehaven 10b 359 However, the page number is not within the range expected for the district. Note that there a number of possible reasons for this, including an error in the district, the page, the volume, the date or the type of entry. On Ancestry this entry appears as Whitechapel 1c 359. This one died 1863 England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 Name: Henry Charles Greasley Year of Registration: 1863 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Whitechapel County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 299 So much for him..... now for her!! There are a number of Jane Baileys in Stoke on Trent!!  I favour this one, Births Jun 1870 Bailey Jane Stoke T. 6b 245 1871 England Census Name: Jane Bailey Age: 10 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Richard Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Penkhull Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke Town: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Villa Street, Penkhull, Stoke Upon Trent Occupation: Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 119 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Bailey 2 Harriett Bailey 5 Jane Bailey 29 Jane Bailey 10 months John Bailey 11 Richard Bailey 36 Potter Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2870; Folio: 15; Page: 23; GSU roll: 836385. 1881 England Census Name: Jane Bailey Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Stoke, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 8 North St, Stoke Upon Trent Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke Upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household Members: Name Age Anne Bailey 18 Jane Bailey 10 Ann Sherry 61 John Sherry 68 Mary Sherry 20 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2728; Folio: 105; Page: 39; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341654. North Street is only a couple of streets away from Hanley Park, so being born in Hanley according to the 1901 census probably ties her down.  1891 England Census Name: Jane Bailey Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Stoke, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 8 North Street, Stoke Upon Trent Occupation: Potter's Paintress Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age John Sterry 78 Ann Sterry 70 Annie Sterry 28 Jane Bailey 20 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2176; Folio 69; Page 7; GSU roll: 6097286 Mark Last edited by Starlight; 03-12-2008 at 09:48 PM. Reason: Copyrighted material |
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29-11-2008, 10:37 PM
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Re: Greasley Look up
Hi Lili
These are Jane's parents if I have followed the correct woman. May I present Richard Bailey and Jane Sherry  1871 England Census Name: Jane Bailey Age: 10 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Richard Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Penkhull Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke Town: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Villa Street, Penkhull, Stoke Upon Trent Occupation: Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 119 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Bailey 2 Harriett Bailey 5 Jane Bailey 29 Jane Bailey 10 months John Bailey 11 Richard Bailey 36 Potter Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2870; Folio: 15; Page: 23; GSU roll: 836385. Marriages Dec 1859 Bailey Richard Stoke T. 6b 224 Sherry Jane Stoke T. 6b 224 Births Jun 1842 Sherry Jane Stoke on Trent 17 194 1841 England Census Name: Richard Bailey Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Hundred: North Pirehill County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Duke Street, Fenton, Stoke upon Trent Registration district: Stoke upon Trent Sub registration district: Fenton Household Members: Name Age Joseph Bailey 35 Potter Charles Bailey 16 Potter's Apprentice Simon Bailey 12 do Joseph Bailey 10 John Bailey 8 Richard Bailey 6 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 990; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 44; Page: 8; Line: 17; GSU roll: 474620. IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results JOSEPH BAILEY Event(s): Marriages: Spouse: SARAH SMITH Marriage: 27 JAN 1823 Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M009962 1813 - 1817 0435853 Film NONE M009962 1817 - 1826 0435854 Film NONE M009962 1827 - 1834 0435855 Film NONE M009962 1834 - 1837 0435856 Film NONE Sheet: 00 1851 England Census Name: Richard Bailey Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Town: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: North Street, Stoke Upon Trent Occupation: Potter Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Household schedule number: 77 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Bailey 21 Turner Potter Richard Bailey 16 Potter Henry Herdemar 26 Miller Uriah Herdemar 22 do Eliza Smith 32 Henry Smith 33 Fireman Potter Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2006; Folio: 15; Page: 22; GSU roll: 87408. Richard is missing from the 1861 census 1861 England Census Name: Jane Bailey [Jane Sherry] Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Penkhull Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 12 North Street, Stoke Upon Trent Occupation: Potter Paintress Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke Upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 178 Household Members: Name Age Jane Bailey 20 Potter Paintress John Bailey 15 Mo Ann Sherry 43 b Middlewich, Cheshire Elizabeth Sherry 3 Harriett Sherry 14 Potter Paintress John Sherry 48 Boat Builder b Wolverhampton Mary Ann Sherry 8 Mo Priscila Sherry 11 Thomas Sherry 18 Potter Gilder Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1938; Folio: 43; Page: 29; GSU roll: 542890 1881 England Census Name: Richard Bailey Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 56 New Street, Stoke Upon Trent Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke Upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Bailey 12 Scholar Harriet Bailey 15 Transferrer Jane Bailey 39 John Bailey 21 Placer in Ovens Priscilla Bailey 8 Richard Bailey 48 General Labourer Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2727; Folio: 117; Page: 8; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341654. 1891 England Census Name: Richard Bailey Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Boothen County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 92 New Street, Stoke Upon Trent Occupation: Potter Placer Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household Members: Name Age Richard Bailey 50 Potter Placer Jane Bailey 40 Potter Paintress Priscilla Bailey 18 Transferrer Albert Hill 23 Unm Lodger Sarah Hill 18 do so presumably bro and sis Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2177; Folio 81; Page 18; GSU roll: 6097287 Deaths Mar 1893 Bailey Richard aged 59 Stoke T. 6b 151 1901 England Census Name: Jane Bailey Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke upon Trent St Peter Town: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 92 New Street, Stoke upon Trent Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Widow Registration district: Stoke upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 268 Household Members: Name Age Jane Bailey 58 Alfred Clayton 29 Coal Miner Alfred Clayton 2 Alfred E Clayton 2 months Anne Clayton 7 Jane Clayton 9 Pricilla Clayton 29 Sarah Clayton 4 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2609; Folio: 51; Page: 45. I think this is her death Deaths Dec 1921 Bailey Jane age 79 Stoke T. 6b 285 This Jane's parents and grandparents 1851 England Census Name: Jane Sherry Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Town: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Cliff Vale, Stoke Upon Trent Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Household schedule number: 61 Household Members: Name Age Ann Sherry 32 Harriet Sherry 4 Jane Sherry 8 John Sherry 39 Boatbuilder Precilla Sherry 1 Thomas Sherry 6 John Snape 19 Lodger Boatbuilder Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2006; Folio: 13; Page: 19; GSU roll: 87408. Marriages Jun 1838 DRINKWATER Ann Stoke on Trent 17 150 SHERRY John Stoke upon Trent 17 150 IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results JOHN SHERRY Event(s): Birth: Christening: 26 DEC 1813 Saint Peter Or Collegiate, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Parents: Father: THOMAS SHERRY Mother: PRISCILLA Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C010203 1813 0497360 Film 0883742 Film C010203 1814 - 1818 0497361 Film NONE C010203 1819 - 1822 0497362 Film NONE C010203 1823 - 1825 0497363 Film NONE C010203 1826 - 1828 0497364 Film NONE C010203 1829 - 1844 0497365 Film NONE Sheet: 00 IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results THOMAS SHERRY Event(s): Marriages: Spouse: PRISCILLA THOMASON Marriage: 18 MAY 1807 Saint Mary Magdalene, Bridgnorth, Shropshire, England Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M037341 1610 - 1812 0510656 Film 6903858 Film M037341 1813 - 1839 0502914 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Should keep you busy for a while Mark Last edited by markf; 29-11-2008 at 10:42 PM. |
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29-11-2008, 11:58 PM
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Re: Greasley Look up
Hi Lili
1841 England Census Name: John Sherry Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Hundred: North Pirehill County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Hanley Street, Stoke upon Trent Occupation: Boatbuilder Registration district: Stoke upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke upon Trent Household Members: Name Age John Sherry 25 Ann Sherry 20 Ann Sherry 2 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 991; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 45; Page: 35; Line: 4; GSU roll: 474621. Mark Last edited by markf; 30-11-2008 at 12:04 AM. |
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30-11-2008, 10:51 AM
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Hi Lili Hi Lili Hi Lo (I'm old enough to remember
)"Charles Greasley" turns up out of the blue at the wedding, gets married and settles down with the lovely Jane, nee Bailey. He comes with no traceable birth, and no place on the 71, 81, or 91 censuses. He is old enough to have been married previously. Marriages Sep 1879 GARNER William Henry Leicester 7a 321 GREASLEY Charles Leicester 7a 321 Mason Fanny Elizabeth Leicester 7a 321 SHARPE Fanny Leicester 7a 321 Marriages Jun 1884 Cottrell Frank Birmingham 6d 109 Greasley Charles Birmingham 6d 109 Miles Lucy Birmingham 6d 109 Worralo Mary Ann Birmingham 6d 109 Marriages Dec 1892 Greasley Charles William Tenbury 6c 399 JEFF Ann Tenbury 6c 399 Mason Annie Tenbury 6c 399 Mattock Samuel Tenbury 6c 399 His trade is semi-skilled, so he must have been around the pottery business for some time during his working life. Did he just create this personality. He's  dening!!Mark |
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