Thread: Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please

Ksucha · 02-11-2008, 01:29 PM

Hi, I'm trying to find the Hoole family.
In 1841 census they are living in Williamthorpe, Derbys.

Joseph born c.1802
Mary 1802
Samuel 1833
George 1835
Eliz. 1836
Joseph 1838
Mary 1838
William 1841

I would like to know what happened after that. I would be very grateful for any help.

Light · 02-11-2008, 02:26 PM

Hi,

1851c.. HO107; Piece: 2147; Folio: 291; Page: 3;

Name: Joseph Hoole
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Williamthorpe, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: North Wingfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

John Hoole 8
Joseph Hoole 12
Mary Hoole 40 Widow, small farmer born Astwith
Mary Hoole 11
Samuel Hoole 18

All kids born Williamthorpe,

Light · 02-11-2008, 02:31 PM

In 1861 Joseph is a farm labourer and classed as a servant at The Lings Northwingfield. Mary is a housekeeper at the same place and both are unmarried..

RG9; Piece: 2527; Folio: 4; Page: 1;

Light · 02-11-2008, 02:40 PM

1861c for Samuel..RG9; Piece: 2527; Folio: 6; Page: 5;

Name: Samuel Hoole
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Williamthorpe, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: North Wingfield
County/Island: Derbyshire

Alice Hoole 5 Months born Williamthorpe
Eleanor Hoole 2 born Hucknall Derbyshire
Mary Hoole 23 born Sutton In Ashfield Notts
Samuel Hoole 27 Gamekeeper and male servant born Williamthorpe

Address The Gamekeepers Cottage Williamthorpe, Northwingfield

Light · 02-11-2008, 02:50 PM

1871 for Samuel..RG10; Piece: 3478; Folio: 128; Page: 53

Name: Samuel Hoole
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Williamthorte, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Kirkby
Town: Kirkby
County/Island: Nottinghamshire

Alice Hoole 10
Anne M Hoole 8
Emma Hoole 4
Mary Hoole 33
Mary H Hoole 6
Samuel Hoole 37 Labourer

Address Church St Kirkby Nottinghamshire

Ksucha · 02-11-2008, 04:45 PM

Thanks so much for all that. The one I'm really interested in tracking is George (1835). I believe he was the father of my G.Grandfather, born c.1858. Unfortunately, there is no birth reg. for G.Grandfather, but I know his name was George from his marriage cert. He gives father's occupation as 'Publican'.
If you can find anything it would be great.

dekeboo · 02-11-2008, 09:14 PM

George Hoole
Census 1851
Living in Renishaw, Derbyshire as an Apprentice
Census 1861
Living in Renishaw, Derbyshire working as ground worker?
Wife Harriet born abt 1839 at Williamsworth, Derbyshire.
Census 1871
Living in Renishaw, Derbshire working as Master Cordainer
Wife Harriet
Daughter Mary age 8 (b.abt 1863)
Son William age 6 (b.abt 1865)
Census 1881
Living at Emmett Carr, Eckington, Derbyshire, Occupation Shoe Maker.
Wife Harriet.
Son William Hoole age 14 working as Colliery Labourer.
Census 1891
Living at Emmett Carr, Eckington, Derbyshire, Occupation Shoemaker.
Wife Harriett.
Son Walter (b. abt 1861) working as a general labourer.
Son William working as a Coal Miner.
Census 1901
Does not appear so possibly died before this time.
Marriage
Wife Harriett maiden name was Slaney (BMD, 1860, Q3, Vol 7b, Page 47, registration district of Worksop.

slizzy · 02-11-2008, 10:32 PM

Hi Ksucha,

Your great grandfather George, born 1858, appears to be living wih his aunt and uncle in 1861 and 1871, their names are Francis and Elizabeth Alsop. An Elizabeth Hoole married in Chesterfield, 1858 Oct-Dec qrt, and on the same page is Francis Alsop. Could George, born 1835 have died before 1861, this being the reason young George is living with his aunt? Maybe you should search for a death for George.

Ksucha · 03-11-2008, 09:38 AM

Thanks, both of you. I'll have a look for a death for George.

Ksucha · 03-11-2008, 10:56 AM

P.S. I would also like to know where Elizabeth (Dau) is in 1851. Also, I see William (son) is missing in 1851. Th eonly death reg. I can find is in Eccleshall Bierlow, which is the wrong reg. district.

02-11-2008, 01:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ksucha New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14	Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please Hi, I'm trying to find the Hoole family. In 1841 census they are living in Williamthorpe, Derbys. Joseph born c.1802 Mary 1802 Samuel 1833 George 1835 Eliz. 1836 Joseph 1838 Mary 1838 William 1841 I would like to know what happened after that. I would be very grateful for any help.
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Light AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,199 Total Awards: 5	Re: Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please Hi, 1851c.. HO107; Piece: 2147; Folio: 291; Page: 3; Name: Joseph Hoole Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Williamthorpe, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: North Wingfield County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England John Hoole 8 Joseph Hoole 12 Mary Hoole 40 Widow, small farmer born Astwith Mary Hoole 11 Samuel Hoole 18 All kids born Williamthorpe,
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Light AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,199 Total Awards: 5	Re: Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please In 1861 Joseph is a farm labourer and classed as a servant at The Lings Northwingfield. Mary is a housekeeper at the same place and both are unmarried.. RG9; Piece: 2527; Folio: 4; Page: 1;
	Light Researching Winnard, Moore, Gregory, Fisher, Flavell, Leigh, Owens, Almond, King, Bradshaw, Taylor, Dodd, Jameson, Walls, Ryder, Coleman, Conroy, Gollagher, Rider.

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Light AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,199 Total Awards: 5	Re: Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please 1861c for Samuel..RG9; Piece: 2527; Folio: 6; Page: 5; Name: Samuel Hoole Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Williamthorpe, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: North Wingfield County/Island: Derbyshire Alice Hoole 5 Months born Williamthorpe Eleanor Hoole 2 born Hucknall Derbyshire Mary Hoole 23 born Sutton In Ashfield Notts Samuel Hoole 27 Gamekeeper and male servant born Williamthorpe Address The Gamekeepers Cottage Williamthorpe, Northwingfield
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Light AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,199 Total Awards: 5	Re: Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please 1871 for Samuel..RG10; Piece: 3478; Folio: 128; Page: 53 Name: Samuel Hoole Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Williamthorte, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Kirkby Town: Kirkby County/Island: Nottinghamshire Alice Hoole 10 Anne M Hoole 8 Emma Hoole 4 Mary Hoole 33 Mary H Hoole 6 Samuel Hoole 37 Labourer Address Church St Kirkby Nottinghamshire
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02-11-2008, 04:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ksucha New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please Thanks so much for all that. The one I'm really interested in tracking is George (1835). I believe he was the father of my G.Grandfather, born c.1858. Unfortunately, there is no birth reg. for G.Grandfather, but I know his name was George from his marriage cert. He gives father's occupation as 'Publican'. If you can find anything it would be great.
Ksucha New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14

02-11-2008, 09:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
dekeboo Committed Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Buckinghamshire Posts: 69	Re: Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please George Hoole Census 1851 Living in Renishaw, Derbyshire as an Apprentice Census 1861 Living in Renishaw, Derbyshire working as ground worker? Wife Harriet born abt 1839 at Williamsworth, Derbyshire. Census 1871 Living in Renishaw, Derbshire working as Master Cordainer Wife Harriet Daughter Mary age 8 (b.abt 1863) Son William age 6 (b.abt 1865) Census 1881 Living at Emmett Carr, Eckington, Derbyshire, Occupation Shoe Maker. Wife Harriet. Son William Hoole age 14 working as Colliery Labourer. Census 1891 Living at Emmett Carr, Eckington, Derbyshire, Occupation Shoemaker. Wife Harriett. Son Walter (b. abt 1861) working as a general labourer. Son William working as a Coal Miner. Census 1901 Does not appear so possibly died before this time. Marriage Wife Harriett maiden name was Slaney (BMD, 1860, Q3, Vol 7b, Page 47, registration district of Worksop.

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slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16,246 Total Awards: 8	Re: Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please Hi Ksucha, Your great grandfather George, born 1858, appears to be living wih his aunt and uncle in 1861 and 1871, their names are Francis and Elizabeth Alsop. An Elizabeth Hoole married in Chesterfield, 1858 Oct-Dec qrt, and on the same page is Francis Alsop. Could George, born 1835 have died before 1861, this being the reason young George is living with his aunt? Maybe you should search for a death for George. Last edited by slizzy; 02-11-2008 at 10:35 PM.

03-11-2008, 09:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ksucha New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please Thanks, both of you. I'll have a look for a death for George.
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03-11-2008, 10:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ksucha New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14	Re: Hoole family: Derbys. Look up, Please P.S. I would also like to know where Elizabeth (Dau) is in 1851. Also, I see William (son) is missing in 1851. Th eonly death reg. I can find is in Eccleshall Bierlow, which is the wrong reg. district.
Ksucha New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14