Thread: Charles Burns 1871 census look up

colashbury · 30-09-2008, 09:11 PM

Hi.Just received a marriage certificate of my GGG Grandfather and Mother.His name is Charles Burns(porter) and hers Harriet Cooper(spinster).They were married in Liverpool in 1872.They were down as minors which is annoying as for this reason,it does not show their ages.This makes it more difficult to find out when they were born.His Father is Charles Burns(Officer in customs) and hers Thomas Cooper (Bookeeper).Their residence at time of marriage was College Street in Liverpool.I am trying to find their ages and Mothers names.As their marriage was 1872 at this address,there is a good chance that one of them was living there at the 1871 census.Any help would be appreciated.......

lozzie · 30-09-2008, 09:36 PM

Hi

I've just had a look at 1871 but can't seem to pin either of them down I would hazard a guess they were both born between 1852-56....any idea where they were born?

Do you know when they died? Or when their parents died?

Sorry not to be of more help yet

Good Luck with your research

Loz

colashbury · 01-10-2008, 04:55 AM

Hi Loz.Quite a mystery really.They had a son Charles in 1875.In the 1881 census he was with two people called Metcalfe as a lodger.I have found a Charles at this time in Liverpool also a lodger so I am presuming that it could be his Father.Maybe the Mother Harriet died before the 1881 census.I worked out the dates that you gave to be approx the same.Poss born between 1852 and 56, as a minor was under 21 but expected them to be over 16.have no idea of their deaths or their parents as I havent got that far yet.Have all the docs for their son though.B.M and Death...Colin

Raven · 01-10-2008, 06:39 AM

There is this death in Liverpool 1878 for a Harriet Burns

Deaths Sep 1878 BURNS Harriet 28 Liverpool 8b131

sonstar · 01-10-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lozzie

Hi

I've just had a look at 1871 but can't seem to pin either of them down I would hazard a guess they were both born between 1852-56....any idea where they were born?

Do you know when they died? Or when their parents died?

Sorry not to be of more help yet

Good Luck with your research

Loz

I found these in the 1871 census with good matches etc:

Quote:

Harriet Cooper - age 1 - daughter of Thomas Cooper & Harriet Cooper / "tamworth" street i think - Hulme - Nr Manchester (lancashire)

Harriet Cooper - age 8 - daugther Thomas Cooper & Agnes / knightley street, Manchester, Lancashire

Harriet Cooper - age 20 - daugh Thomas & Rhoda / Cant read road name, Bacup, Lancashire

colashbury · 01-10-2008, 02:35 PM

Hi Raven.Info sounds spot on.I will have a look now.If this is correct it gives me a better idea of her age and where to look for her birth.Thanks......

colashbury · 01-10-2008, 02:52 PM

Hi again Raven.
Is that info deffinately correct.I have found a harriet Burns who died in West Derby,Liverpool in approx 1879 aged 28 and born approx 1851.The numbers given there are volume 8b page 213......

sonstar · 01-10-2008, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colashbury

Hi again Raven.
Is that info deffinately correct.I have found a harriet Burns who died in West Derby,Liverpool in approx 1879 aged 28 and born approx 1851.The numbers given there are volume 8b page 213......

i have:

Quote:

Jun 1879 Burns Harriet 28 W. Derby 8b 213

data from FMD.org.uk

colashbury · 01-10-2008, 03:32 PM

Hi Son.The other dates that yer gave me for the one in Liverpool 8b-131 are they correct as well or was this one a mistake....Col

sonstar · 01-10-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by colashbury

His name is Charles Burns(porter) and hers Harriet Cooper(spinster).They were married in Liverpool in 1872. ...hers Thomas Cooper (Bookeeper).Their residence at time of marriage was College Street in Liverpool..

Based on this info and the death record with an age i have found some likely candidates but none of them with Thomas as a bookeeper!!!

maybe some can check on findmypast they have more detailed bits of info on their to search for!

30-09-2008, 09:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
colashbury New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10	Charles Burns 1871 census look up Hi.Just received a marriage certificate of my GGG Grandfather and Mother.His name is Charles Burns(porter) and hers Harriet Cooper(spinster).They were married in Liverpool in 1872.They were down as minors which is annoying as for this reason,it does not show their ages.This makes it more difficult to find out when they were born.His Father is Charles Burns(Officer in customs) and hers Thomas Cooper (Bookeeper).Their residence at time of marriage was College Street in Liverpool.I am trying to find their ages and Mothers names.As their marriage was 1872 at this address,there is a good chance that one of them was living there at the 1871 census.Any help would be appreciated.......
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30-09-2008, 09:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
lozzie AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: At Home Posts: 2,271 Total Awards: 3	Re: Charles Burns 1871 census look up Hi I've just had a look at 1871 but can't seem to pin either of them down I would hazard a guess they were both born between 1852-56....any idea where they were born? Do you know when they died? Or when their parents died? Sorry not to be of more help yet Good Luck with your research Loz
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01-10-2008, 04:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
colashbury New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10	Re: Charles Burns 1871 census look up Hi Loz.Quite a mystery really.They had a son Charles in 1875.In the 1881 census he was with two people called Metcalfe as a lodger.I have found a Charles at this time in Liverpool also a lodger so I am presuming that it could be his Father.Maybe the Mother Harriet died before the 1881 census.I worked out the dates that you gave to be approx the same.Poss born between 1852 and 56, as a minor was under 21 but expected them to be over 16.have no idea of their deaths or their parents as I havent got that far yet.Have all the docs for their son though.B.M and Death...Colin
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01-10-2008, 06:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Raven Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sunny Stonehaven Posts: 2,731 Total Awards: 5	Re: Charles Burns 1871 census look up There is this death in Liverpool 1878 for a Harriet Burns Deaths Sep 1878 BURNS Harriet 28 Liverpool 8b131
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01-10-2008, 02:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
colashbury New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10	Re: Charles Burns 1871 census look up Hi Raven.Info sounds spot on.I will have a look now.If this is correct it gives me a better idea of her age and where to look for her birth.Thanks......
colashbury New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10

01-10-2008, 02:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
colashbury New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10	Re: Charles Burns 1871 census look up Hi again Raven. Is that info deffinately correct.I have found a harriet Burns who died in West Derby,Liverpool in approx 1879 aged 28 and born approx 1851.The numbers given there are volume 8b page 213......
colashbury New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10

01-10-2008, 03:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
colashbury New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10	Re: Charles Burns 1871 census look up Hi Son.The other dates that yer gave me for the one in Liverpool 8b-131 are they correct as well or was this one a mistake....Col
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