Thread: help rosa robbins/rabens, george rabens

minnie1703 · 27-09-2008, 03:29 AM

can anyone help. please

im looking for rosa rabens( abt1888)
she married frederick samuel robbins in swansea glamorgan, her fathers name was george robbins who was a sailor, and died before 1905. she had 3 daughters that i know of named eunice rosina, violet, and margaret robbins.
frederick samuel robbins died in the battle of jutland 1916. after he died frederick and rosas's daughters went with fredericks brother thomas j robbins to live. i dont know anything more about rosa rabens or her father, where she originated from? where did she dissappear to after her husband died at jutland. was she german or jewish?
i cant find her death or birth certificate. only her marriage in swansea 1905

any help appreciated

welshlady · 27-09-2008, 10:52 AM

could this be her birth and her nane really robins before marriage .

Rosa RobinsYear of Registration:1888 Quarter of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec District:Swansea County:Glamorgan, West Glamorgan Volume:11a Page:719

welshlady · 27-09-2008, 10:57 AM

this could be dad georges death
George RobinsEstimated Birth Year:abt 1845Year of Registration:1902Quarter of Registration:Jan-Feb-MarAge at Death:57District:SwanseaCounty:Glamorgan, West GlamorganVolume:11aPage:630

welshlady · 27-09-2008, 11:03 AM

this is that family in 1891.

Name:Rosinah Robins Age:1 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1890 Relation Daughter Father's Name:GeorgeMother's Name:RosinahGender:FemaleWhere born:Swansea, Glamorgan, WalesCivil Parish:St John Ecclesiastical parish:St John Town:Swansea County/Island:Glamorgan Country:Wales Registration district:Swansea Sub registration district:Llangyfelach Household Members:NameAgeDavid Robins8 Frederick Robins10 George Robins30 (smelter) Margaret Robins4 Rosinah Robins28 Rosinah Robins1
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Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4476; Folio 57; Page 69; GSU roll: 6099586.

note the rosina and margaret names of family members

minnie1703 · 27-09-2008, 04:31 PM

this is the the family of frederick robbins but his wifes name was rosa rabens on her marriage cert and fathers name was george rabens

Raven · 27-09-2008, 05:23 PM

HI there

re the Rabens or Robins... The discrepancy could be cause by a local Dialect and how the person filling in the forms thought the surname was written... I had something similar with a rellie.. His surname was Matchett but was written as Maxwell on his marriage certificate... This was due to his thick Irish accent and the Session Clerk's hearing... lol

27-09-2008, 03:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
minnie1703 New Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3	help rosa robbins/rabens, george rabens can anyone help. please im looking for rosa rabens( abt1888) she married frederick samuel robbins in swansea glamorgan, her fathers name was george robbins who was a sailor, and died before 1905. she had 3 daughters that i know of named eunice rosina, violet, and margaret robbins. frederick samuel robbins died in the battle of jutland 1916. after he died frederick and rosas's daughters went with fredericks brother thomas j robbins to live. i dont know anything more about rosa rabens or her father, where she originated from? where did she dissappear to after her husband died at jutland. was she german or jewish? i cant find her death or birth certificate. only her marriage in swansea 1905 any help appreciated
minnie1703 New Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3

27-09-2008, 10:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
welshlady Advanced Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wrexham Posts: 530 Total Awards: 3	Re: help rosa robbins/rabens, george rabens could this be her birth and her nane really robins before marriage . Rosa RobinsYear of Registration:1888 Quarter of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec District:Swansea County:Glamorgan, West Glamorgan Volume:11a Page:719
	Names I am researching Walker (liverpool) davidson, mccullough,mcdowell grills, wilson and thornton (ireland) wookey (somerset) houstoun (worcester and scotland), jeffcoate and iliffe (midlands) byron, bailey and edwards (cheshire and staffs)

27-09-2008, 10:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
welshlady Advanced Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wrexham Posts: 530 Total Awards: 3	Re: help rosa robbins/rabens, george rabens this could be dad georges death George RobinsEstimated Birth Year:abt 1845Year of Registration:1902Quarter of Registration:Jan-Feb-MarAge at Death:57District:SwanseaCounty:Glamorgan, West GlamorganVolume:11aPage:630
	Names I am researching Walker (liverpool) davidson, mccullough,mcdowell grills, wilson and thornton (ireland) wookey (somerset) houstoun (worcester and scotland), jeffcoate and iliffe (midlands) byron, bailey and edwards (cheshire and staffs)

27-09-2008, 11:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
welshlady Advanced Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wrexham Posts: 530 Total Awards: 3	Re: help rosa robbins/rabens, george rabens this is that family in 1891. Name:Rosinah Robins Age:1 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1890 Relation Daughter Father's Name:GeorgeMother's Name:RosinahGender:FemaleWhere born:Swansea, Glamorgan, WalesCivil Parish:St John Ecclesiastical parish:St John Town:Swansea County/Island:Glamorgan Country:Wales Registration district:Swansea Sub registration district:Llangyfelach Household Members:NameAgeDavid Robins8 Frederick Robins10 George Robins30 (smelter) Margaret Robins4 Rosinah Robins28 Rosinah Robins1 Save Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4476; Folio 57; Page 69; GSU roll: 6099586. note the rosina and margaret names of family members
	Names I am researching Walker (liverpool) davidson, mccullough,mcdowell grills, wilson and thornton (ireland) wookey (somerset) houstoun (worcester and scotland), jeffcoate and iliffe (midlands) byron, bailey and edwards (cheshire and staffs)

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minnie1703 New Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3	Re: help rosa robbins/rabens, george rabens this is the the family of frederick robbins but his wifes name was rosa rabens on her marriage cert and fathers name was george rabens
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27-09-2008, 05:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Raven Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sunny Stonehaven Posts: 2,731 Total Awards: 5	Re: help rosa robbins/rabens, george rabens HI there re the Rabens or Robins... The discrepancy could be cause by a local Dialect and how the person filling in the forms thought the surname was written... I had something similar with a rellie.. His surname was Matchett but was written as Maxwell on his marriage certificate... This was due to his thick Irish accent and the Session Clerk's hearing... lol
	Raven.. researching: Matchett (Ayrshire, Dundee),McFarland (Co derry NI) Dick, Ewing, Nairn, Young (Ayrshire) Koehler (East Prussia), Russell( Peebleshire)