Thread: Lancashire look up please

LittlePetal · 23-09-2008, 08:44 PM

Could some kind soul please see if they can find the birth of James Heaps born c1788 in Welch Whittle which is between Standish in Wigan and Coppull in Chorley? I would be very grateful Thank you.

Light · 24-09-2008, 05:44 PM

Hi Petal,

Sorry I cant find his baptism but this looks like his marriage from the Lancs OPC.
Marriage: 10 Jul 1809 St Wilfrids, Standish, Lancashire, England
James Heaps - of This Parish
Anne Yates - of The said Parish
Witness: William Sharrock; Thomas Cowling
Married by License by: Richard Perryn, Rector
Register: Marriages 1792 - 1812, Page 197, Entry 589
Source: LDS#1526141

1851c..HO107; Piece: 2263; Folio: 399; Page: 5. Hes here with his wife Nancy and family, could Ann be Nancy.

Light · 24-09-2008, 05:53 PM

1851 for reference..Cant find him on the 1841c

Name: James Heaps Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Nancy Gender: Male Where born: Charnock Richard, Lancashire,

Civil Parish: Duxbury Ecclesiastical parish: Adlington Lancashire England

Registration district: Chorley.
Name Age Ellen Baron 30 William Baron 45 Hannah Billington 24 James Greenwood 36 James Heapes 63 Nancy Heapes 60 Sarah Ann Heapes 7 James Heaps 24

LittlePetal · 24-09-2008, 06:05 PM

Hi and thank you very much for your endeavours. It's strange that no sign of him can be found on the 1841 isn't it? I am very grateful for your time. Regards. LP.

Light · 24-09-2008, 06:17 PM

Well he does seem to be a rather grand farmer so I should imagine he is on the 1841c but mistranscribed.
A lot of the images for Lancs are very faded and hard to read..

Ill keep looking

LittlePetal · 24-09-2008, 07:29 PM

Hi again, I have been working my way slowly backwards beginning with the 1901 census etc. I realise there are quite a few families with this name and have tried to be v. careful.
I am so interested in that 1809 wedding because one of the witnesses names is Thomas Cowling (so glad to know of that site). Now, on the 1861 census the family has a Nancy Cowling living with them! Wondering about this, I tracked down the death of James Heaps and the remarriage of Nancy. So it looks as though after her husband died, she married the Best Man!
One area of concern is the name Anne and Nancy. On the 1861 census she is listed as being born in Darwen, Lancs and is always called Nancy and yet the marriage has her as Anne and'of this parish'. How can I sort that one out? Ideas gratefully received. Many thanks.

slizzy · 24-09-2008, 08:00 PM

Hi Little Petal,

Nancy and Nanny were commonly used as 'pet' names for girls' named Ann. If Nancy was a pet name.......then she would have used her birth name (Ann) at her marriage ceremony.

To qualify as 'of this parish' one didn't have to be born there, but to have lived there for a few weeks prior to the marriage. Hope this helps with your concerns.

LittlePetal · 24-09-2008, 08:04 PM

Thank you for that info Slizzy. Very grateful.LP.

23-09-2008, 08:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
LittlePetal Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 43	Lancashire look up please Could some kind soul please see if they can find the birth of James Heaps born c1788 in Welch Whittle which is between Standish in Wigan and Coppull in Chorley? I would be very grateful Thank you. Last edited by LittlePetal; 24-09-2008 at 01:35 PM.
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24-09-2008, 05:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Light AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,199 Total Awards: 5	Re: Lancashire look up please Hi Petal, Sorry I cant find his baptism but this looks like his marriage from the Lancs OPC. Marriage: 10 Jul 1809 St Wilfrids, Standish, Lancashire, England James Heaps - of This Parish Anne Yates - of The said Parish Witness: William Sharrock; Thomas Cowling Married by License by: Richard Perryn, Rector Register: Marriages 1792 - 1812, Page 197, Entry 589 Source: LDS#1526141 1851c..HO107; Piece: 2263; Folio: 399; Page: 5. Hes here with his wife Nancy and family, could Ann be Nancy.
	Light Researching Winnard, Moore, Gregory, Fisher, Flavell, Leigh, Owens, Almond, King, Bradshaw, Taylor, Dodd, Jameson, Walls, Ryder, Coleman, Conroy, Gollagher, Rider.

24-09-2008, 05:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Light AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,199 Total Awards: 5	Re: Lancashire look up please 1851 for reference..Cant find him on the 1841c Name: James Heaps Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Nancy Gender: Male Where born: Charnock Richard, Lancashire, Civil Parish: Duxbury Ecclesiastical parish: Adlington Lancashire England Registration district: Chorley. Name Age Ellen Baron 30 William Baron 45 Hannah Billington 24 James Greenwood 36 James Heapes 63 Nancy Heapes 60 Sarah Ann Heapes 7 James Heaps 24
	Light Researching Winnard, Moore, Gregory, Fisher, Flavell, Leigh, Owens, Almond, King, Bradshaw, Taylor, Dodd, Jameson, Walls, Ryder, Coleman, Conroy, Gollagher, Rider.

24-09-2008, 06:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
LittlePetal Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 43	Re: Lancashire look up please Hi and thank you very much for your endeavours. It's strange that no sign of him can be found on the 1841 isn't it? I am very grateful for your time. Regards. LP.
LittlePetal Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 43

24-09-2008, 06:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Light AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,199 Total Awards: 5	Re: Lancashire look up please Well he does seem to be a rather grand farmer so I should imagine he is on the 1841c but mistranscribed. A lot of the images for Lancs are very faded and hard to read.. Ill keep looking
	Light Researching Winnard, Moore, Gregory, Fisher, Flavell, Leigh, Owens, Almond, King, Bradshaw, Taylor, Dodd, Jameson, Walls, Ryder, Coleman, Conroy, Gollagher, Rider.

24-09-2008, 07:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
LittlePetal Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 43	Re: Lancashire look up please Hi again, I have been working my way slowly backwards beginning with the 1901 census etc. I realise there are quite a few families with this name and have tried to be v. careful. I am so interested in that 1809 wedding because one of the witnesses names is Thomas Cowling (so glad to know of that site). Now, on the 1861 census the family has a Nancy Cowling living with them! Wondering about this, I tracked down the death of James Heaps and the remarriage of Nancy. So it looks as though after her husband died, she married the Best Man! One area of concern is the name Anne and Nancy. On the 1861 census she is listed as being born in Darwen, Lancs and is always called Nancy and yet the marriage has her as Anne and'of this parish'. How can I sort that one out? Ideas gratefully received. Many thanks.
LittlePetal Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 43

24-09-2008, 08:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16,246 Total Awards: 8	Re: Lancashire look up please Hi Little Petal, Nancy and Nanny were commonly used as 'pet' names for girls' named Ann. If Nancy was a pet name.......then she would have used her birth name (Ann) at her marriage ceremony. To qualify as 'of this parish' one didn't have to be born there, but to have lived there for a few weeks prior to the marriage. Hope this helps with your concerns.

24-09-2008, 08:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
LittlePetal Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 43	Re: Lancashire look up please Thank you for that info Slizzy. Very grateful.LP.
LittlePetal Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 43