Thread: Shephard confusion

tootie · 19-09-2008, 02:12 PM

I have found many ways of spelling Sheppard, Shephard, Shepperd, Shepard, Shapard, and even Shopard. So for the sake of ease Im just using Shepard in this post.

I have got in a muddle with part of my tree, I hoping some kind person will take a look for me as I think a new pair of eyes might just clarify my muddle.
I have two lines of Shepard, I am muddled on the following...
Who are Charles Shepards Parents and Grandparents?
Here is Charles Shepard on the 1861 census
Edward Shophard abt 1821 Tirley, Gloucestershire, Head
Elizabeth Shophard abt 1832 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Wife
Auther Shophard abt 1851 Tirley, Gloucestershire, England Son
Ethelinda Shophard abt 1853 Tirley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Charles Shophard abt 1856 Tirley, Gloucestershire, England Son

but Im not sure if I have parents and grandparents correct.
Parents:- Edward b.1823 Tirley, Gloucestershire & Elizabeth 1832 Painswick Gloucestershire
Grandparents:- James b. 1786 Tirley Gloucestershire (name has changed to Shapard)
NB. These are not in the same direct line as the Shepards Kiwi kindly found for me in the Bartletts thread .(well I dont think they are)

Raven · 19-09-2008, 02:34 PM

Tootie is Charles actually

Horatio Charles Shepherd??
christened 15 JUn 1856 Tirley Gloucestershire

if so here is the ref for his birth..
*Ratio Charles Shephard Year of Registration: 1856 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Tewkesbury County: Gloucestershire, Worcestershire Volume: 6a Page: 583 (click to see others on page)
I would send for his birth cert or one from the other children just to verify you are on the right path..

tootie · 19-09-2008, 02:48 PM

Not seen the name Horatio on anything else Ive found for him Raven...
Im pretty sure about Charles, its Edward and james I have got into a muddle with

tootie · 19-09-2008, 02:52 PM

Thank you for the link, I just looked at the actual document on that page Raven, looks like its been transcribed incorrectly too

Raven · 19-09-2008, 03:39 PM

Yeah true...

Have you seen these christenings and the one death, on the IGI for parents Edward Shepherd and Elizabeth...

CHRISTOPHER ALFRED SHEPHERD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 10 NOV 1861 Tirley, Gloucester, England
EMILY JANE SHEPHERD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 JAN 1864 Tirley, Gloucester, England
ELIZA ROSA SHEPHERD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 JAN 1862 Tirley, Gloucester, England
THOMAS FREDERICK SHEPHARD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 MAY 1866 Tirley, Gloucester, England
HORATIS CHARLES SHEPHARD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 JUN 1856 Tirley, Gloucester, England
ARTHUR BEWCROFT SHEPHERD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Death: 17 FEB 1865
ARTHUR BEWCROFT SHEPHERD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 JUN 1851 Tirley, Gloucester, England
ETHELINDER LYDIA SHEPHERD - - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 MAY 1853 Tirley, Gloucester, England

tootie · 29-09-2008, 07:44 AM

I sent away for My Nans Birth certificate, thought I better start with that because I didnt want to order the wrong one for Charles or Horatis Charles... To add to my confusion it has come back with her Father as Charles Shapard.
I have looked again with this in mind and cant find anything...EEK!
Anyone with any suggestions for my next step would be much appreciated

19-09-2008, 02:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
tootie AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Somerset, England Posts: 56 Total Awards: 1	Shephard confusion I have found many ways of spelling Sheppard, Shephard, Shepperd, Shepard, Shapard, and even Shopard. So for the sake of ease Im just using Shepard in this post. I have got in a muddle with part of my tree, I hoping some kind person will take a look for me as I think a new pair of eyes might just clarify my muddle. I have two lines of Shepard, I am muddled on the following... Who are Charles Shepards Parents and Grandparents? Here is Charles Shepard on the 1861 census Edward Shophard abt 1821 Tirley, Gloucestershire, Head Elizabeth Shophard abt 1832 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Wife Auther Shophard abt 1851 Tirley, Gloucestershire, England Son Ethelinda Shophard abt 1853 Tirley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Charles Shophard abt 1856 Tirley, Gloucestershire, England Son but Im not sure if I have parents and grandparents correct. Parents:- Edward b.1823 Tirley, Gloucestershire & Elizabeth 1832 Painswick Gloucestershire Grandparents:- James b. 1786 Tirley Gloucestershire (name has changed to Shapard) NB. These are not in the same direct line as the Shepards Kiwi kindly found for me in the Bartletts thread .(well I dont think they are) Last edited by tootie; 19-09-2008 at 04:12 PM.
	Gloucestershire: Bartlett Bazer Jarrett Millett Palser Phillips Price Shapard Sheppard Stiffe Stiff Thornell Thorndell Webb Wales: Roach Rosser Somerset: Badman Chedzoy Ireland Maggs Manley Mitchell Mogg Norton Perry Richards Spencer Tonkins Vowles Weeks Worcestershire: Day Phillips Devon: Tonkin

19-09-2008, 02:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Raven Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sunny Stonehaven Posts: 2,731 Total Awards: 5	Re: Bartlett - Tirley Gloucestershire Tootie is Charles actually Horatio Charles Shepherd?? christened 15 JUn 1856 Tirley Gloucestershire if so here is the ref for his birth.. *Ratio Charles Shephard Year of Registration: 1856 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Tewkesbury County: Gloucestershire, Worcestershire Volume: 6a Page: 583 (click to see others on page) I would send for his birth cert or one from the other children just to verify you are on the right path..
	Raven.. researching: Matchett (Ayrshire, Dundee),McFarland (Co derry NI) Dick, Ewing, Nairn, Young (Ayrshire) Koehler (East Prussia), Russell( Peebleshire)

19-09-2008, 02:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
tootie AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Somerset, England Posts: 56 Total Awards: 1	Re: Shephard confusion Not seen the name Horatio on anything else Ive found for him Raven... Im pretty sure about Charles, its Edward and james I have got into a muddle with
	Gloucestershire: Bartlett Bazer Jarrett Millett Palser Phillips Price Shapard Sheppard Stiffe Stiff Thornell Thorndell Webb Wales: Roach Rosser Somerset: Badman Chedzoy Ireland Maggs Manley Mitchell Mogg Norton Perry Richards Spencer Tonkins Vowles Weeks Worcestershire: Day Phillips Devon: Tonkin

19-09-2008, 02:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
tootie AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Somerset, England Posts: 56 Total Awards: 1	Re: Shephard confusion Thank you for the link, I just looked at the actual document on that page Raven, looks like its been transcribed incorrectly too
	Gloucestershire: Bartlett Bazer Jarrett Millett Palser Phillips Price Shapard Sheppard Stiffe Stiff Thornell Thorndell Webb Wales: Roach Rosser Somerset: Badman Chedzoy Ireland Maggs Manley Mitchell Mogg Norton Perry Richards Spencer Tonkins Vowles Weeks Worcestershire: Day Phillips Devon: Tonkin

19-09-2008, 03:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
Raven Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sunny Stonehaven Posts: 2,731 Total Awards: 5	Re: Shephard confusion Yeah true... Have you seen these christenings and the one death, on the IGI for parents Edward Shepherd and Elizabeth... CHRISTOPHER ALFRED SHEPHERD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 10 NOV 1861 Tirley, Gloucester, England EMILY JANE SHEPHERD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 28 JAN 1864 Tirley, Gloucester, England ELIZA ROSA SHEPHERD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 05 JAN 1862 Tirley, Gloucester, England THOMAS FREDERICK SHEPHARD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 12 MAY 1866 Tirley, Gloucester, England HORATIS CHARLES SHEPHARD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 15 JUN 1856 Tirley, Gloucester, England ARTHUR BEWCROFT SHEPHERD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Death: 17 FEB 1865 ARTHUR BEWCROFT SHEPHERD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 22 JUN 1851 Tirley, Gloucester, England ETHELINDER LYDIA SHEPHERD - - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 08 MAY 1853 Tirley, Gloucester, England
	Raven.. researching: Matchett (Ayrshire, Dundee),McFarland (Co derry NI) Dick, Ewing, Nairn, Young (Ayrshire) Koehler (East Prussia), Russell( Peebleshire)

29-09-2008, 07:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
tootie AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Somerset, England Posts: 56 Total Awards: 1	Re: Shephard confusion I sent away for My Nans Birth certificate, thought I better start with that because I didnt want to order the wrong one for Charles or Horatis Charles... To add to my confusion it has come back with her Father as Charles Shapard. I have looked again with this in mind and cant find anything...EEK! Anyone with any suggestions for my next step would be much appreciated
	Gloucestershire: Bartlett Bazer Jarrett Millett Palser Phillips Price Shapard Sheppard Stiffe Stiff Thornell Thorndell Webb Wales: Roach Rosser Somerset: Badman Chedzoy Ireland Maggs Manley Mitchell Mogg Norton Perry Richards Spencer Tonkins Vowles Weeks Worcestershire: Day Phillips Devon: Tonkin