Thread: Gladwell/Church

Ixion

Some help please, possibly via the 1841 to 1861 censuses for both of the following:
Chenery Gladwell, born in Ashbocking, Bosmere District either in 1818 or 1838; thought to have married
Hannah Church from Crowfield (also Bosmere District) when she was 17!
Information on free sites is conflicting, am trying to firm up details.
NB. Daughter Elizabeth (Maternal Grandfathers Mother) had 17 children if this helps!
Many Thanks

Raven

Chenery Gladwell abt 1821 on 1841 Census (Ash Boking)

Chenery Gladwell
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Ash Bocking
Hundred: Bosmere and Claydon
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Thatcher
Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
Household Members:
Name Age
Chenery Gladwell 20
Joseph Gladwell 70
Mary Gladwell 65

Class: HO107; Piece 1018; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Ash Bocking; County: Suffolk; Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 8; Page: 11; Line: 22;
(there are a lot of other Gladwells on this Page and the next)

Raven

1851 Census - Transcribed as Chemey

Chemey Gladwell
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Son
Spouse's Name: Charlotte
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashbocking, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Ashbocking
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:Thatcher
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte Gladwell 25
Chemey Gladwell 32
James Gladwell 3
Joseph Gladwell 81
Mary Gladwell 76

Class: HO107; Piece: 1797; Folio: 253; Page: 3

Seems he is "married" to a Charlotte on this Census but checking for the marriage for Chenery Gladwell 1850 2nd Qtr Vol 10 Pg 381
The name that comes up with his is a Harriet Rosbrooke... curious and more curious..

Raven

Now I have found yet another marriage for him
1855 Jun Qtr Bosmere Vol 4a Pg 665 a Hannah Church appears on the same page.

There is a death for a Harriet Gladwell
1854 4th Qtr Cosford Vol 4a Pg 285.

Raven

Hannah Church 1841 Census

Hannah Church
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall
Hundred: Bosmere and Claydon
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Debenham
Household Members:
Name Age
Miriam Chilvers 17
Charles Church 45
Charles Church 3
Eliza Church 35
Emma Church 10
Hannah Church 7
Susannah Church 3 Mo
William Church 27
Willm Andrew Church 5

Class: HO107; Piece 1019; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall; County: Suffolk; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 18; Page: 2;

Raven

Hannah Church 1851 Census

Hannah Church
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Crowfield, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Crowfield
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Servant
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Hannah Church 17
James Hall 16
John Hall 43
Mary Hall 67


Class: HO107; Piece: 1797; Folio: 177; Page: 4;

Raven

Have been doing more searching... the Harriet Rosbrooke married a Chenery Gladwell born about 1823, in Cockfield. I have found them on the 1851 Census... This Chenery is an Ag Lab. So we can disregard this bit.

Still can't find a marriage for Chenery to a Charlotte but have found a death for a Charlotte Gladwell in 1853

Deaths Dec 1853
Gladwell Charlotte Bosmere Vol 4a Pg 329

Raven

1861 Census

Chenery Gladwell
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashbocking, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Ashbocking
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: Cottage, Ashboking
Occupation:Thatcher
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Gladwell 1
Chenery Gladwell 40
Fredrick Gladwell 3
Hannah Gladwell 28
James Gladwell 13


Class: RG9; Piece: 1155; Folio: 5; Page: 4

Raven

Phew!!!

found it.... the marriage for Chenery to Charlotte..
Checked the IGI and there was a submitted entry for
Chenery Gladwell marrying a Charlotte Taylor 5 Aug 1844 in Ashboking.
Then checked on Ancestry to see if I could find anything more positive and there it is..
Chenery Gladwell 1844 3rd Qtr Bosmere Vol 12 Pg 449
Charlotte Taylor on the same page....

Ixion

Hi Raven,
The way I read it is that Charlotte was his first wife dying in 1853 and Hannah his second; marrying in 1855. This is indeed a revelation. For info Elizabeth (my maternal Grandfather's Mother) was born to Chenery and Hannah in 1873. Brilliant detective work if I may say so!