Thread: James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please

Pauline1 · 06-09-2008, 04:43 PM

Hi

I have hit a brickwall as regards James Lees. Hope someone can help.

James Lees born c1817 Oldham Lancashire
Mary ? 1819 born Bakewell Derbyshire (spouse)
Ann Lees b c1853 Oldham Lancashire.
Sarah E Lees born c1856 Oldham
John James Lees born c1860
Mary Elizabeth Lees born c1871 (this is the one I'm stuck on) she'd be too young to be Mary's daughter. or Mary would have been past the child bearing age.
So I'm just hoping that James and Mary had another daughter prior to the one born in 1853.

Thanks

Raven · 06-09-2008, 05:07 PM

Hi Pauline...

looking at the 1861 Census they have an older child called Heyward b1851 and he too was born in Lancs..

Class: RG9; Piece: 3017; Folio: 42; Page: 34;

Raven · 06-09-2008, 05:30 PM

Hi Pauline, me again..

I have checked the 1881 Census and if you check in the relationship column for Mary Elizabeth Lees, there are ditto marks under the "grand" part of grandson John James Gilpin

Class: RG11; Piece: 4082; Folio: 57; Page: 108

Pauline1 · 06-09-2008, 08:35 PM

Hi Raven

Ah right. Thankyou so much for your help. It's much appreciated. I just seemed to have been banging my head against a brickwall

slizzy · 06-09-2008, 08:45 PM

Do you have this Pauline?

1891.

Name: Mary E Lees Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: Oldham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England

Ann Lees/38/dau
James Lees/10mnths/g.son
John J Lees/31/son
Mary Lees/73/head
Mary E Lees/19/g.dau
Mary J Lees/31/son's wife.

slizzy · 06-09-2008, 08:53 PM

Heywood Lees 1891.

Name: Heywood Lees Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: Oldham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England

Eliza A Lees/14/dau
Florence Lees/3/dau
Heywood Lees/40/head/widower

slizzy · 06-09-2008, 08:53 PM

1901.

Name: Mary Lees Age: 82 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Mother Gender: Female Where born: Bakewell, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Sarah A Gilpin/7/niece
Ann Lees/48/sister
James Lees/10/son
John J Lees/41/head
Mary Lees/82/mother
Mary E Lees/29/niece
Mary J Lees/41/wife

Pauline1 · 06-09-2008, 09:42 PM

Hi sliizzy.

Bless you, that's brilliant, thankyou I have got some of the Lees family and Sarah E Lees Married Edward Gilpin, but alas I think they all moved to Georgia in 1910. Mind you who could blame them with the weather we are having in UK

Thanks once again slizzy

slizzy · 06-09-2008, 09:50 PM

Hi Pauline,

You're welcome

There is more Pauline if you want it, I wasn't sure how much info you had. For example, Heywood is on earlier census' with his wife. If you'd like more just shout, always happy to oblige.

Pauline1 · 07-09-2008, 02:46 PM

Hi slizzy.

That would be great if you could let me have more on Heywood in the earlier Census

I have got Heywood's marriage to Eleanor Mullingshaw at Chadderton St Matthew In Oldham in 1871 and Eleanor's death in 1890.

Thanks

06-09-2008, 04:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pauline1 AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nottingham UK Posts: 1,342 Total Awards: 4	James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please Hi I have hit a brickwall as regards James Lees. Hope someone can help. James Lees born c1817 Oldham Lancashire Mary ? 1819 born Bakewell Derbyshire (spouse) Ann Lees b c1853 Oldham Lancashire. Sarah E Lees born c1856 Oldham John James Lees born c1860 Mary Elizabeth Lees born c1871 (this is the one I'm stuck on) she'd be too young to be Mary's daughter. or Mary would have been past the child bearing age. So I'm just hoping that James and Mary had another daughter prior to the one born in 1853. Thanks
	Researching! Beswick Staffordshire-Cheshire Hulme's and Heathcotes Cheshire & Lancs and Hatton's of Cheshire

06-09-2008, 05:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Raven Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sunny Stonehaven Posts: 2,731 Total Awards: 5	Re: James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please Hi Pauline... looking at the 1861 Census they have an older child called Heyward b1851 and he too was born in Lancs.. Class: RG9; Piece: 3017; Folio: 42; Page: 34;
	Raven.. researching: Matchett (Ayrshire, Dundee),McFarland (Co derry NI) Dick, Ewing, Nairn, Young (Ayrshire) Koehler (East Prussia), Russell( Peebleshire)

06-09-2008, 05:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
Raven Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sunny Stonehaven Posts: 2,731 Total Awards: 5	Re: James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please Hi Pauline, me again.. I have checked the 1881 Census and if you check in the relationship column for Mary Elizabeth Lees, there are ditto marks under the "grand" part of grandson John James Gilpin Class: RG11; Piece: 4082; Folio: 57; Page: 108 Last edited by Raven; 06-09-2008 at 06:00 PM. Reason: editing image
	Raven.. researching: Matchett (Ayrshire, Dundee),McFarland (Co derry NI) Dick, Ewing, Nairn, Young (Ayrshire) Koehler (East Prussia), Russell( Peebleshire)

06-09-2008, 08:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pauline1 AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nottingham UK Posts: 1,342 Total Awards: 4	Re: James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please Hi Raven Ah right. Thankyou so much for your help. It's much appreciated. I just seemed to have been banging my head against a brickwall
	Researching! Beswick Staffordshire-Cheshire Hulme's and Heathcotes Cheshire & Lancs and Hatton's of Cheshire

06-09-2008, 08:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16,246 Total Awards: 8	Re: James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please Do you have this Pauline? 1891. Name: Mary E Lees Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Oldham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: Oldham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Ann Lees/38/dau James Lees/10mnths/g.son John J Lees/31/son Mary Lees/73/head Mary E Lees/19/g.dau Mary J Lees/31/son's wife.

06-09-2008, 08:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16,246 Total Awards: 8	Re: James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please Heywood Lees 1891. Name: Heywood Lees Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Oldham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: Oldham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Eliza A Lees/14/dau Florence Lees/3/dau Heywood Lees/40/head/widower Last edited by slizzy; 06-09-2008 at 09:00 PM.

06-09-2008, 08:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16,246 Total Awards: 8	Re: James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please 1901. Name: Mary Lees Age: 82 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Mother Gender: Female Where born: Bakewell, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Oldham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Sarah A Gilpin/7/niece Ann Lees/48/sister James Lees/10/son John J Lees/41/head Mary Lees/82/mother Mary E Lees/29/niece Mary J Lees/41/wife

06-09-2008, 09:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
Pauline1 AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nottingham UK Posts: 1,342 Total Awards: 4	Re: James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please Hi sliizzy. Bless you, that's brilliant, thankyou I have got some of the Lees family and Sarah E Lees Married Edward Gilpin, but alas I think they all moved to Georgia in 1910. Mind you who could blame them with the weather we are having in UK Thanks once again slizzy
	Researching! Beswick Staffordshire-Cheshire Hulme's and Heathcotes Cheshire & Lancs and Hatton's of Cheshire

06-09-2008, 09:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16,246 Total Awards: 8	Re: James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please Hi Pauline, You're welcome There is more Pauline if you want it, I wasn't sure how much info you had. For example, Heywood is on earlier census' with his wife. If you'd like more just shout, always happy to oblige.

07-09-2008, 02:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pauline1 AA SUPPORTER Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nottingham UK Posts: 1,342 Total Awards: 4	Re: James Lees Look up 1861/1871 Please Hi slizzy. That would be great if you could let me have more on Heywood in the earlier Census I have got Heywood's marriage to Eleanor Mullingshaw at Chadderton St Matthew In Oldham in 1871 and Eleanor's death in 1890. Thanks Last edited by Pauline1; 07-09-2008 at 02:54 PM.
	Researching! Beswick Staffordshire-Cheshire Hulme's and Heathcotes Cheshire & Lancs and Hatton's of Cheshire