Thread: Nobbs of Gorleston/Yarmouth

Bazza

Hello all, hopefully this is an easy one for you, if they made it onto the censuses...

Looking for information on the family of John Nobbs and Jemima nee Hunn. Jemima was born in 1779 in Runham, Norfolk, but don't know about John (his mother-in-law's will stated he was a schoolmaster of Gorleston, yet Jemima was living in Great Yarmouth). They had at least three children:
- George Nobbs Hunn (1799, Runham -1884), who later in life changed his name to G. Hunn Nobbs and was a well-known pastor and school teacher on Norfolk and Pitcairn Islands, yet claimed he was the illegitimate son of the peerage.
- Charlotte Nobbs, born 1801, Gt Yarmouth
- Jemima Nobbs, born 1802, Gt Yarmouth

Hoping someone can locate them and perhaps even some potential matches for Charlotte and Jemima, so I can track them down too.

Thanks in Advance

Baz

welshlady

starting with births

Charlotte NobbsGender:Female
Birth Date:22 Sep 1801
Christening Date:26 Sep 1801Christening Place:Yarmouth, Norfolk, fathers Name:John Nobbs Mother's Name:Jemima Hunn

Jemima NobbsGender:FemaleBirth Date:18 Nov 1802
Christening Date:22 Nov 1802
Christening Place:Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Father's Name:John Nobbs Mother's Name:Jemima Hunn

poss marriages

Charlotte Nobbs Spouse's Name:John Steward
Marriage Date:2 Apr 1837 Marriage Place:Sprowston, Norfolk, England

cant find a marriage for jemima except a 1860 one which seems a bit late

but there is this death??
Jemima NobbsYear of Registration:1844
Quarter of Registration:Apr-May-Jun District:Yarmouth Volume:13Page:277

or this one

Name: Jemima Nobbs Birth: abt 1806 Death: Sep 1895 - Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, Norfolk

welshlady

in 1841 this is the charlotte that married john steward

Charlotty StewardAge:20 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1821Gender:Female Where born:Norfolk, EnglandCivil Parish:Sprowston Hundred:Taverham County/Island:Norfolk Country:England Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district:St Faiths Sub registration district:Sprowston Household Members:NameAgeCharlotty Steward20 Hannah Steward3 John Steward25

so cant be your charlotte as age is out

welshlady

tree on ancestry has charlotte marrying

1823 1 Nov Age: 22 Gorleston Suffolk
Marriage to James Burman

and has her living in great yarmouth in 1851

1851 Age: 50

Row 19 Great Yarmouth

and living until 1883


which seems to fit so might need more research - no other details about family though

welshlady

they have a child
Ellen Jemima Burman Gender:Female Christening Date:3 Mar 1827Christening Place:Yarmouth, Norfolk, EnglandFather's Name:James Burman Mother's Name:Charlotte

middle name possibly alluding to mothers sister???
plus

James Hunn BurmanGender:MaleChristening Date:20 Feb 1825Christening Place:Yarmouth, Norfolk, EnglandFather's Name:James BurmanMother's Name:Charlotte

hunn middle name so think it is very likely we have foudn charlotte correctly
they also have

Clarisa Susannah BurmanGender:FemaleChristening Date:15 Aug 1831Christening Place:Yarmouth, Norfolk, EnglandFather's Name:James BurmanMother's Name:Charlotte

Emma Elizabeth BurmanGender:FemaleChristening Date:3 Mar 1829Christening Place:Yarmouth, Norfolk, EnglandFather's Name:James BurmanMother's Name:Charlotte

Bazza

Thanks Welshlady

Any luck with censuses (now looking for Burmans too). Can't be sure whether 1844 Jemima is mother or daughter...

B

welshlady

not having much look finding nobbs on census. just found this site which might help you when you get further back or with other norfolk relatives

http://www.doun.org/transcriptions/s...?surname=NOBBS

1881 charlotte burnam nee nobbs

Name:Charlotte BurmanAge:80 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1801 Relation:Mother in Law Gender:FemaleWhere born:Yarmouth, Norfolk, EnglandCivil Parish:North Shields County/Island:Northumberland Country:England Street address:2 Steels QuayCondition as to marriage:Widower
Occupation:Late InnkeeperRegistration district:Tynemouth Household Members:NameAgeCharlotte Burman80 John Burman11 Clara Gowers44 J.U. Gowers44 Cargareth Mc Gregor18


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5074; Folio: 76; Page: 1; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342225.

one of the burman children marriages
ellen jemima burman
DAVID LEWIS VON BIEMA
Marriage: 04 OCT 1845 St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk,

james hunn burman seems to die
Death 1844 Jun-qtr Yarmouth 13 - 276

bit of a hotch potch of info but still doesnt help you go further back

welshlady

can find her with james and grand children jane anderson (1847 great yarmouth) and samuel sheppherd (1869 newcastle) in 1871 chirton northumberland

and in 1861 in newcastle with james and children
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3826; Folio: 12; Page: 18; GSU roll: 543193.

Charlotte Burman59 David Burman6 Emma Burman31 James Burman60 James Burman16

and in 1851 in great yarmouth
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1806; Folio: 504; Page: 33; GSU roll: 207457-207458.
Charlotte Burman49 Clariss Burman19 Emily Burman14 Emma Burman22 James Burman50 James Burman6 Catherine Lewis4 (granddaughter)

and finally 1841
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 793; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth; County: Norfolk; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 25; Page: 2; Line: 3; GSU roll: 438872.

Charlotte Burman35 Clara Burman9 Emily Burman5 Emma Burman12 James Burman40 James Burman8 Mo

welshlady

with regards to jemima i cant find her so was wondering if the 1844 death is her . would need to buy certificate to find out - though she should still be on 141 census. was wondering if the other death in 1895 is the mother ( born approx right time ) - again would need cert to be sure.

with regards to charles - you said he went out to pacific area ann was famous . when did he go- is that who you are descended from?
i foudn this census for 1861 but assume that is not him

Name: Charles Hunn Birth: abt 1795 - Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Residence: 1861 - Norwich St Peter Mancroft, Norfolk, England

a lot of people on ancestry have him in their tree like this but note different birthplace and different parents. the father francis rawdon being govenor of malta and grnadson of sir john rawdon of moira house county down which would be where the tales of nobility are from i assume.

Name: Rev George Hunn Nobbs Birth: 16 Oct 1799 - Moira, Down, IrelandDeath: 5 Nov 1884 - Norfolk IslandParents: Francis Rawdon, Jemima French Spouse: Sarah Christian

Bazza

Excellent!!

I'm not really interested in going back more, but rather forward. This is part of a 'Hunn' tree, and these are a separate branch to my connection. With regard to George Hunn Nobbs, we believe he falsified his ancestry to make an impression at Pitcairn Island. And I've got quite a bit on him already, from several people. Concentrating on his sisters now...

I was hoping you'd be able to track down some of Charlotte's children in the other censuses. What I've got so far (with your help!) is:
- Ellen Jemima (1827, Gt Yarmouth) m. 1845, Gt Yarmouth; David Lewis von Biema [Catherine's (=Jane Andreson) parents]. Name seems to have been changed to LEWES
- Emma Elizabeth (1829, Gt Yarmouth) m. 1862, Newcastle; John Henry Parr m. 1877, Newcastle; James Patterson Stewart
- Clarissa Susannah (1831, Gt Yar'th - 1895, Tynemouth) m. 1860; Claus Friedrich Pluns, m. 1867; Jan Ubben Gowers
- Emily Charlotte (1836, Gt Y - 1922, Newcastle) m. 1856, Newcastle; Samuel Shepherd
- James Henry (1844, Gt Yar'th - 1893, Tynemouth) m. 1866, Tynemouth; Charlotte Cowell
[And grandchildren if possible]

Thanks Heaps, I hope I haven't overwhelmed you!

I owe you....

Baz