Thread: Caroline Elizabeth McClelland

The Lady Marion · 13-08-2008, 06:02 AM

Born in 1861/62 was my G Grandmother Caroline Elizabeth McClelland. The 1871 Census has her aged 9 years born in Ilsey. Caroline was the daughter of Robert McClelland and Harriett. I just find it strange that all Carolines siblings births are recorded but not hers. Can anyone help. I have posted this search before but thought perhaps it might be worth another go. I think Ilsey could be Hilsea but I,m not sure. Her Father Robert McClelland served in the Royal Artillery. I have all the other births recorded for Robert and Harriett from 1852 until 1864 for five other daughters. Perhaps Caroline was born under another name and changed at Baptism like her sister Agnes born 1864? Later changed at Baptism to Harriett Agnes. Most likely named so after her Mother Harriett who died in 1864.

Regards Marion

slizzy · 13-08-2008, 09:57 AM

Morning Marion ,

Could it be Ilsley in Berkshire, what do you think?

The Lady Marion · 13-08-2008, 10:56 AM

Hello Slizzy,
There is an Ilsey in Berkshire but I have only checked out the Portsmouth area such as for Hilsea Barracks. I wonder if Berkshire might be the go here? Later Census for my G Grandmother do state Portsmouth as place of birth. I cant believe there is no Baptism for her anywhere to be found nor a birth ref when all her siblings can be found. I have always thought it is something to do with her first name. I wont give up on this one as I feel in my heart there is something somewhere out there to be found on her. Hmmm Berkshire.

Thankyou For your help.

Marion

slizzy · 13-08-2008, 11:00 AM

That's right Marion.............don't give up, as you said there must be something out there. Did she have a sister named Seline (or similar) Harriet Mclelland?

The Lady Marion · 13-08-2008, 11:14 AM

This is what I have for siblings names. Agnes born and died 1852 . Laura Elizabeth born 1860 Weeden Beck died 1860. Emily 1858 Aldershot. Harriett born 1857 Northampton,Agnes born 1864 Aldershot later changed at Baptism to Harriett Agnes. Nothing on my Caroline to offer.

Marion

The Lady Marion · 13-08-2008, 11:21 AM

Slizzy have you found another little sister that I was not aware of
Seline? My GG Grandfathers second wife was Ellen Selina but they had no children to my knowledge.

Marion

The Lady Marion · 13-08-2008, 11:30 AM

Slizzy sorry to go on but my old bones tell me its something to do with her first names. Maybe I,m wrong but... On my Great Grandfathers Royal Artillery Papers it states wifes name Elizabeth Whitehead then there is a line through the name Elizabeth. A correction was made Caroline Elizabeth Whitehead. The Census have her for Caroline then Elizabeth. I dont think she liked her first name or was that her first name? The Marriage Cert does state Caroline Elizabeth though. My Nan and her sisters Birth Certs show Caroline as Mother then on some its Elizabeth. What a to do. She,s out there but noone can find her.

Marion

slizzy · 13-08-2008, 07:15 PM

Hi Marion, I've searched and better searched for Caroline but sorry I couldn't find anything. Have you contacted the local register office? It's possible they didn't send Caroline's details to the GRO, sometimes this happens due to human error. It's worth a try. Good luck.

The Lady Marion · 14-08-2008, 05:37 AM

Slizzy Hi,
Thanks for all your help. A friend of mine went to Kew for me on this one as well but nothing. As long as I have life in my body I wont except that my Great Grandmothers Birth or Baptism refs are not to be found. What do you mean by Local Reg Office? I did pay for a search from a place in Portsmouth but nothing turned up. I am wondering now about Berkshire and Ilsey. Strange how the 1871 Census state Ilsey but the rest dont.

Thankyou Slizzyxx

slizzy · 14-08-2008, 11:37 AM

Hi Marion,

All births were registered at a local register office, those details were then sent to the GRO. It has happened that a few were overlooked and not forwarded, in this case they won't show up on freebmd. Hope this helps.

13-08-2008, 06:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
The Lady Marion Advanced Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: I now live in Sydney Australia Posts: 794 Total Awards: 3	Caroline Elizabeth McClelland Born in 1861/62 was my G Grandmother Caroline Elizabeth McClelland. The 1871 Census has her aged 9 years born in Ilsey. Caroline was the daughter of Robert McClelland and Harriett. I just find it strange that all Carolines siblings births are recorded but not hers. Can anyone help. I have posted this search before but thought perhaps it might be worth another go. I think Ilsey could be Hilsea but I,m not sure. Her Father Robert McClelland served in the Royal Artillery. I have all the other births recorded for Robert and Harriett from 1852 until 1864 for five other daughters. Perhaps Caroline was born under another name and changed at Baptism like her sister Agnes born 1864? Later changed at Baptism to Harriett Agnes. Most likely named so after her Mother Harriett who died in 1864. Regards Marion
	Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland and Aldershot.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Woolwich.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater from Woolwich. Plant from Watermans Field ..Woolwich, Lichfield And The Cape Of Good Hope.

13-08-2008, 09:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16,246 Total Awards: 8	Re: Caroline Elizabeth McClelland Morning Marion , Could it be Ilsley in Berkshire, what do you think?

13-08-2008, 10:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
The Lady Marion Advanced Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: I now live in Sydney Australia Posts: 794 Total Awards: 3	Re: Caroline Elizabeth McClelland Hello Slizzy, There is an Ilsey in Berkshire but I have only checked out the Portsmouth area such as for Hilsea Barracks. I wonder if Berkshire might be the go here? Later Census for my G Grandmother do state Portsmouth as place of birth. I cant believe there is no Baptism for her anywhere to be found nor a birth ref when all her siblings can be found. I have always thought it is something to do with her first name. I wont give up on this one as I feel in my heart there is something somewhere out there to be found on her. Hmmm Berkshire. Thankyou For your help. Marion
	Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland and Aldershot.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Woolwich.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater from Woolwich. Plant from Watermans Field ..Woolwich, Lichfield And The Cape Of Good Hope.

13-08-2008, 11:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16,246 Total Awards: 8	Re: Caroline Elizabeth McClelland That's right Marion.............don't give up, as you said there must be something out there. Did she have a sister named Seline (or similar) Harriet Mclelland?

13-08-2008, 11:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
The Lady Marion Advanced Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: I now live in Sydney Australia Posts: 794 Total Awards: 3	Re: Caroline Elizabeth McClelland This is what I have for siblings names. Agnes born and died 1852 . Laura Elizabeth born 1860 Weeden Beck died 1860. Emily 1858 Aldershot. Harriett born 1857 Northampton,Agnes born 1864 Aldershot later changed at Baptism to Harriett Agnes. Nothing on my Caroline to offer. Marion
	Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland and Aldershot.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Woolwich.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater from Woolwich. Plant from Watermans Field ..Woolwich, Lichfield And The Cape Of Good Hope.

13-08-2008, 11:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
The Lady Marion Advanced Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: I now live in Sydney Australia Posts: 794 Total Awards: 3	Re: Caroline Elizabeth McClelland Slizzy have you found another little sister that I was not aware of *Seline? My GG Grandfathers second wife was Ellen Selina but they had no children to my knowledge.* *Marion*
	Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland and Aldershot.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Woolwich.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater from Woolwich. Plant from Watermans Field ..Woolwich, Lichfield And The Cape Of Good Hope.

13-08-2008, 11:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
The Lady Marion Advanced Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: I now live in Sydney Australia Posts: 794 Total Awards: 3	Re: Caroline Elizabeth McClelland Slizzy sorry to go on but my old bones tell me its something to do with her first names. Maybe I,m wrong but... On my Great Grandfathers Royal Artillery Papers it states wifes name Elizabeth Whitehead then there is a line through the name Elizabeth. A correction was made Caroline Elizabeth Whitehead. The Census have her for Caroline then Elizabeth. I dont think she liked her first name or was that her first name? The Marriage Cert does state Caroline Elizabeth though. My Nan and her sisters Birth Certs show Caroline as Mother then on some its Elizabeth. What a to do. She,s out there but noone can find her. Marion
	Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland and Aldershot.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Woolwich.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater from Woolwich. Plant from Watermans Field ..Woolwich, Lichfield And The Cape Of Good Hope.

13-08-2008, 07:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16,246 Total Awards: 8	Re: Caroline Elizabeth McClelland Hi Marion, I've searched and better searched for Caroline but sorry I couldn't find anything. Have you contacted the local register office? It's possible they didn't send Caroline's details to the GRO, sometimes this happens due to human error. It's worth a try. Good luck.

14-08-2008, 05:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
The Lady Marion Advanced Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: I now live in Sydney Australia Posts: 794 Total Awards: 3	Re: Caroline Elizabeth McClelland Slizzy Hi, Thanks for all your help. A friend of mine went to Kew for me on this one as well but nothing. As long as I have life in my body I wont except that my Great Grandmothers Birth or Baptism refs are not to be found. What do you mean by Local Reg Office? I did pay for a search from a place in Portsmouth but nothing turned up. I am wondering now about Berkshire and Ilsey. Strange how the 1871 Census state Ilsey but the rest dont. Thankyou Slizzyxx
	Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland and Aldershot.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Woolwich.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater from Woolwich. Plant from Watermans Field ..Woolwich, Lichfield And The Cape Of Good Hope.

14-08-2008, 11:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16,246 Total Awards: 8	Re: Caroline Elizabeth McClelland Hi Marion, All births were registered at a local register office, those details were then sent to the GRO. It has happened that a few were overlooked and not forwarded, in this case they won't show up on freebmd. Hope this helps.