Thread: Vital Records

Jon · 25-05-2008, 07:39 AM

If Ancestry Aid was to take the time to re-create a Vital Records Database would you be willing to submit records into it?

That is the question we are asking you all. The system would include the following features:

Birth Records
Marriage Records
Death/Burial Records
Submit Your Own Records
Search & Results

We have had this system before but it was not used as much as we would have liked. Building the system will take a little time but could be up and running within a couple of weeks.

PLEASE vote above and feel free to leave your views on this subject to this post.

Thank you for your time.

andy100 · 25-05-2008, 08:13 AM

But the vital records are already available on ancestry.co.uk and freebmd pre 1910. The only records that you could supply that are still not available are the post 1910 records. The problem is that there are so many of them, but it would be so usefull to be able to index them. But it would be a huge task.

Kelly · 25-05-2008, 08:28 AM

Hi Andy,

I understand what you are saying, yes the records are on Ancestry but the difference is there that there is a charge to view those records, if they were on here people would have them for free.
The main reason for them being on here is for members to submit their own BMDs, where there would not be any copyright issues.
As for post 1910 i wouldnt know where we stood with that, that would have to be looked into further.

Thanks for your input

gillian · 25-05-2008, 08:34 AM

I'd like a bit more information about what is envisaged. I assume we are not looking to duplicate what is freely available elsewhere? or is ongoing on a large scale? (eg freeBMD)
The sort of things I might be able to contribute are:
Full details from any BMD certificates I have
Parish register entries I might transcribe while searching for a particular entry
Scotlandspeople search results.
Maybe some finds when I get my one-name study properly underway.
Is this the sort of thing you have in mind?
Could monumental inscriptions be incorporated?
What I really want is some guidance about copyright issues - I'm not at all clear
Gillian

tanjat67 · 25-05-2008, 08:37 AM

I would be interested in using the vital records because on some sites like Ancestry and Genes Reunited you have to pay to look at them and sometimes you can not afort to pay for them. So yes I would definely be using it on this site.

Tanja

Peterk · 25-05-2008, 08:37 AM

Family History can be an expensive pastime,especially if you have both Welsh and Irish family and Military Ancestors,and,I am all for making it cheaper.
Yes Please to the Vital Records.
peterk

cfuller1958 · 25-05-2008, 08:37 AM

Yes Ancestry have these records as so do some other sites BUT....... they are pay sites. Remember this is a free site and I believe records kept by goverments should be free. I live in australia and it is hard enough finding info on family overseas.

Jon · 25-05-2008, 08:37 AM

Hi Gillian,

We can input what ever we like to it. As for the copyright issues this is what's what.

If the record is still in its ORIGIONAL format and you transcribe it into tex/digital format it then become YOUR Interlectual Copyright and can be added to the database on Ancestry Aid.

If the record has been previously transcribed then you can NOT use it in our database.

Does that make sense to you.

Regards

tanjat67 · 25-05-2008, 08:39 AM

Yes I would definely be using the Vital Records on this site because on sites like Ancestry and Genes Reunited and some othr sites you have to pay to look at them.

Can't wait for this to start happening.

Tanja from Australia

gillian · 25-05-2008, 08:52 AM

Thank you Jon
So if I have a birth certificate or pay to download one from Scotlandspeople I can copy it onto the database.
If I transcribe some parish records in a library that is OK too. (but not if they have already been transcribed elsewhere?)
It is not OK to copy from books/CDs/other transcription records.
I am very much in favour but would want it to be something AncestryAid is doing which is not happening on a larger scale elsewhere. FreeBMD is now pretty complete up to 1927ish and progressing further.
Gillian

View Poll Results: Do You Want A Vital Records System? Would You Add To It?
Yes I Want It. Yes I would add to it.	180	90.45%
Yes I Want It. But no I would NOT add to it.	14	7.04%
No, I Do NOT Want It	5	2.51%
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25-05-2008, 07:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jon Webmaster & Developer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK - England Posts: 945	Vital Records If Ancestry Aid was to take the time to re-create a Vital Records Database would you be willing to submit records into it? That is the question we are asking you all. The system would include the following features: Birth Records Marriage Records Death/Burial Records Submit Your Own Records Search & Results We have had this system before but it was not used as much as we would have liked. Building the system will take a little time but could be up and running within a couple of weeks. PLEASE vote above and feel free to leave your views on this subject to this post. Thank you for your time.
	Jon Ancestry Aid Webmaster & Developer

25-05-2008, 08:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
andy100 New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2	Re: Vital Records But the vital records are already available on ancestry.co.uk and freebmd pre 1910. The only records that you could supply that are still not available are the post 1910 records. The problem is that there are so many of them, but it would be so usefull to be able to index them. But it would be a huge task.
andy100 New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2

25-05-2008, 08:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Kelly Ancestry Aid Owner Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK - England Posts: 1,670	Re: Vital Records Hi Andy, I understand what you are saying, yes the records are on Ancestry but the difference is there that there is a charge to view those records, if they were on here people would have them for free. The main reason for them being on here is for members to submit their own BMDs, where there would not be any copyright issues. As for post 1910 i wouldnt know where we stood with that, that would have to be looked into further. Thanks for your input
	Kelly Ancestry Aid Owner

25-05-2008, 08:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
gillian Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Leicester Posts: 2,585 Total Awards: 4	Re: Vital Records I'd like a bit more information about what is envisaged. I assume we are not looking to duplicate what is freely available elsewhere? or is ongoing on a large scale? (eg freeBMD) The sort of things I might be able to contribute are: Full details from any BMD certificates I have Parish register entries I might transcribe while searching for a particular entry Scotlandspeople search results. Maybe some finds when I get my one-name study properly underway. Is this the sort of thing you have in mind? Could monumental inscriptions be incorporated? What I really want is some guidance about copyright issues - I'm not at all clear Gillian Last edited by gillian; 25-05-2008 at 08:39 AM.

25-05-2008, 08:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
tanjat67 Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Elizabeth North, South Australia Posts: 177 Total Awards: 2	Re: Vital Records I would be interested in using the vital records because on some sites like Ancestry and Genes Reunited you have to pay to look at them and sometimes you can not afort to pay for them. So yes I would definely be using it on this site. Tanja
	Tanja Surnames I am trying to research are Skilton (Surrey, England and South Africa), Thomas (Llanelly in Wales), Turner (UK), Godden (Surrey, England), Couture (Canada), Bloodworth (Surrey, England)

25-05-2008, 08:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
Peterk New Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2	Re: Vital Records Family History can be an expensive pastime,especially if you have both Welsh and Irish family and Military Ancestors,and,I am all for making it cheaper. Yes Please to the Vital Records. peterk
Peterk New Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2

25-05-2008, 08:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
cfuller1958 New Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 7	Re: Vital Records Yes Ancestry have these records as so do some other sites BUT....... they are pay sites. Remember this is a free site and I believe records kept by goverments should be free. I live in australia and it is hard enough finding info on family overseas.
cfuller1958 New Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 7

25-05-2008, 08:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jon Webmaster & Developer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK - England Posts: 945	Re: Vital Records Hi Gillian, We can input what ever we like to it. As for the copyright issues this is what's what. If the record is still in its ORIGIONAL format and you transcribe it into tex/digital format it then become YOUR Interlectual Copyright and can be added to the database on Ancestry Aid. If the record has been previously transcribed then you can NOT use it in our database. Does that make sense to you. Regards
	Jon Ancestry Aid Webmaster & Developer

25-05-2008, 08:39 AM	#9 (permalink)
tanjat67 Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Elizabeth North, South Australia Posts: 177 Total Awards: 2	Re: Vital Records Yes I would definely be using the Vital Records on this site because on sites like Ancestry and Genes Reunited and some othr sites you have to pay to look at them. Can't wait for this to start happening. Tanja from Australia
	Tanja Surnames I am trying to research are Skilton (Surrey, England and South Africa), Thomas (Llanelly in Wales), Turner (UK), Godden (Surrey, England), Couture (Canada), Bloodworth (Surrey, England)

25-05-2008, 08:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
gillian Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Leicester Posts: 2,585 Total Awards: 4	Re: Vital Records Thank you Jon So if I have a birth certificate or pay to download one from Scotlandspeople I can copy it onto the database. If I transcribe some parish records in a library that is OK too. (but not if they have already been transcribed elsewhere?) It is not OK to copy from books/CDs/other transcription records. I am very much in favour but would want it to be something AncestryAid is doing which is not happening on a larger scale elsewhere. FreeBMD is now pretty complete up to 1927ish and progressing further. Gillian Last edited by gillian; 25-05-2008 at 09:00 AM.