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    Question Maria Pointon Butterworth born 1873 USA.

    Hello,

    I am trying to find the place and any details for her in USA.

    She was christened in 1874 in St John the Baptist church in Godley cum Newton. The vicar had made a note of her birth date but not where she was born. But she says on census that it was America.

    Her father was Charles Henry Butterworth born 1847 in Mottram Cheshire. He was a Moulder. Her mother was Maria Pointon born 1849 Newton, Cheshire. They also had a daughter Alice Ann Butterworth born 1870 in Hyde, who must have gone with them.

    They had come back to Cheshire by 1875 when a son was born there.

    If anyone has access to Passenger Lists or some other info for my query, I would very much appreciate it if you could have a look for them for me.

    Kind regards,
    Calmar
    Last edited by calmar; 09-03-2011 at 04:19 PM. Reason: Mistake in dates of Christening.
    Still searching for birth details and parents of William Woodruff (Woodroffe) born Glossop, Derbyshire c 1833, Soldier in 2nd Batt 3rd Regt of Foot (The Buffs).

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    Hello

    They are shown on the 1871 census living with the POINTON familydo you know the date of birth of the child born 1875?

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    Hello.

    No I do not know the exact birthdate of her brother. The Poynton family in 1871 is her widowed mother and children.

    Looking at birthdates for her siblings, they must have been in USA between 1873 and 1875. so that is the timescale of the USA trip I believe.
    She eventually emigrated and lived in NZ where husband died in 1916. she came home about 1920 and died in 1958 in Burnely.

    Regards,
    Calmar
    Still searching for birth details and parents of William Woodruff (Woodroffe) born Glossop, Derbyshire c 1833, Soldier in 2nd Batt 3rd Regt of Foot (The Buffs).

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    Default Maria Pointon Butterworth

    I found Alice A Butterworth, age 21, in the 1891 census living with her mother Maria Butterworth | Registration District of Burnley. Her birthplace is Hyde, Cheshire, England |Civil Parish Burnley | Ecclesiastical parish of St. Andrew | Lancashire, England.

    Living together is

    Maria Butterworth | 42 / 1849/ wid / head / cotton weaver / born Cheshire, Hyde
    Alice A Butterworth |21/ 1870/ dau/ S / cotton weaver / born Cheshire, Hyde
    Maria T Butterworth |17/ 1874/ dau/ S / cotton weaver / America
    Charles H Butterworth |15/ 1876/ son/ S / cotton weaver / Lancashire Hyde
    Martha Panton | 52/ 1839/ aunt/ Lancashire Stockport / cripple

    Also living there is a Charlie Furton / 5 / orphan / Lancashire Bury.

    Looking at the image of the census, Maria has been mis-transcribed as Maria T – it should read Maria P

    Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3363; Folio 36; Page 17
    Last edited by kptz; 19-03-2011 at 02:05 AM.
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    Default Maria Pointon Butterworth

    FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915

    Maria Pointon Butterworth to William Blanchard Stubley
    1897 Sep Qtr | Burnley | Lancashire, Yorkshire – West Riding | 8e, 334
    ************************************************** ********
    New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981 Record for Maria Pointon Stubley lists her as a widow. Her residence is listed as Roswell PO. The electoral year is 1919 in the district of Marsden, province of Northland.
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    1901 England census
    Maria Stubley | 27 | abt 1874 |Wife Spouse's Name: William B Stubley | cotton weaver | United States (British Subject) | Civil parish: Burnley | Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew |Lancashire Country: England

    William B Stubley | 23 | 1878 | painter (house) | Lincolnshire Swines Head

    Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3864; Folio: 73; Page: 1
    ************************************************** ********

    Death Index gives
    Maria P Stubley | 1958 | 84| Reg dist of Nelson, Lancashire
    10e / 21

    The UK Incoming Passenger Lists start in 1878.

    There is a family tree online at A****y, with a birth date but not location in the US. Do you have her death certificate? When I got the certificate for my GGM [she lived and died in Lancashire], it gave her place of birth. Perhaps the informant on her death certificate may have been able to supply that information.



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    Hi,

    Thank you for replying to my thread.

    I have all that info that you mentioned, that is everything except birth place in USA.

    I do not have death cert yet but not sure whether it will give birth place if it is an English cert for death.

    Kind regards,
    Calmar
    Still searching for birth details and parents of William Woodruff (Woodroffe) born Glossop, Derbyshire c 1833, Soldier in 2nd Batt 3rd Regt of Foot (The Buffs).

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    Mornig Calmar,

    I think obtaing the death certificate is the only way forward, as far as I am aware the place of birth is included on the Death certificate see Registering a death in the UK

    Certificates should be obtained form Purchasing a UK cetificate at a cost of £9.25 sterling



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    Morning Elsabels,

    Thank you for that. I didn't ralise that the place of birth was included. Can't remember whether I was asked that question when I have had to register deaths of my close family members, but of course, they were all born in this country!

    kptz. I forgot to say also that the tree on A******y is probably mine!

    Kind regards,
    Calmar
    Still searching for birth details and parents of William Woodruff (Woodroffe) born Glossop, Derbyshire c 1833, Soldier in 2nd Batt 3rd Regt of Foot (The Buffs).

 

 

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